eschetic-2 It isn't hard to understand why a show with a popular supporting actor from one hit sitcom (Thomas Haden Church, Lowell on WINGS) and the soon to be co-lead on another (Debra Messing who would be Grace on WILL & GRACE - the gay community's AMOS 'N ANDY) could tank in just two seasons: total lack of chemistry between the leads and an unpleasant foolish concept with writing which could never rise above either.Ned (Church) is a shallow, irritating, grossly sexist ad executive who cares about nothing but himself and is told he must be married for promotion purposes. Stacey (Messing) is a shallow, irritating woman - theoretically a writer, but we seldom see any evidence of an actual working life - who wants to find a place of her own (so do the bland Jewish parents she's still living with after a hypothetical fiancée has dumped her). After they agree to a marriage of convenience and begin to cohabitate, NONE of these essential character traits change. Contrary to age-old convention, no attraction or vestigial romance percolates (occasional bitchily jealous comments but no real warmth or romance), just deeper layers of self centered juggling and attempted "one-upping." One of the worst lapses of concept the writers imposed on the show was the ridiculous idea that Ned and Stacey could play around all they wanted outside their fake marriage because no one in Ned's ad world saw or heard anything outside their own insular world. Technically it freed them for "wilder" story lines, but it didn't help the "likability" factor of the characters or show an iota.The only thing which almost made the show palatable on occasion was the insecure charm of Greg Germann (Eric "Ricco" Moyer, Stacey's brother in law accountant at Ned's advertising firm) and the frustrated wit of Nadia Dajani (Amanda, Stacey's sister). As the *only* appealing characters in the farce, the writers tried to expand their roles as the show wore on (and my, how it wore), but they were stuck with their basic concept of a non-communicating pseudo-marriage (technically the concept of WILL AND GRACE came from its creators' lives, but it's easy to understand why they thought of Messing to reprise a role she'd already played) constantly spring inconvenient surprises on each other. John Getz as an even shallower ad executive tried hard to add color in six episodes, but it was a case of trying to polish rotting fruit (to avoid the cruder advertising term) - especially in one of the better episodes when the writers try to warm up Ned and Stacey by showing all the real marriages in Ned's ad firm as even worse than their "fake" one.Church's limited acting ability - he seems physically incapable of making eye contact with a person he's sharing a scene with - was disguised in WINGS by his character supposedly being "dim." It was a serious problem in this show where his character is supposed to be not only intelligent but self assured and successful. Given the level of farce writing on this, WILL AND GRACE and a made-for TV movie I've seen, one cannot draw many conclusions as to Ms. Messing's thespian ability, but they never seemed to rise much above the level of smiling and shaking her nicely coiffed red hair or trying to look intense or pouting and shouting.For lack of serious competition during its original run and the all too brief appearances of Germann, I watched NED AND STACEY fairly regularly but could never find the charm. I recently picked up the DVDs of the first season that a local video store was selling off cheap because it never rented. Curiosity trumped memory. Unfortunately, the show was no better fifteen years later. It is best viewed as a textbook example of structurally sound situation comedy writing which fails completely without a credible concept, characters to care about or actors with any chemistry or warmth. Technically funny can't compensate for basic unpleasantness.

smokskren Church was supremely funny in this twisted comedy. The show was cancelled way before the story line was expended - a great disappointment. I have just discovered the reruns on cable and STILL enjoy them as much as I did the original run 6 years ago! You have to have a dark sense of humor to appreciate this comedy. Things between Ned and Stacey sometimes get vicious! The premise itself (Ned & Stacy marry so that he can obtain a promotion)just begins to touch upon how self involved and materialistic Ned is. With Messing's Stacy being sometimes ditzy, overreactive and overly sensitive, she becomes the perfect catalyst to put Ned completely over the edge. The situation itself is absurd, but if you accept that you can begin to imagine the many possible hilarious scenarios!!SPOILER: In one episode Stacy finds a bed that is perfect for her only to find out it's sold. Ned, for his own personal reasons, bribes the salesman. Stacy gets the bed, finds out about the bribe, HAS to return the bed because she feels she stole it from someone else. The store won't accept returns. Ned bribes the salesperson to take the bed back and now Stacy won't return the bed because of THAT bribe.

jmatrixrenegade Thomas Haden Church, sorta playing the smart evil twin of his character on "Wings" and Debra Messing, basically preparing for her role as Grace, was a good pair on this comedy. It only lasted for about two years, but it was a superior product, and had that fun edge that many shows these days only strive for.

Brett_Buck Ned and Stacey is the hetero version of "Will and Grace". Except it's actually funny. The premise is virtually identical, platonic co-habitation, the roles are virtually the same. Everything is played for laughs, no serious undercurrents, no position to take; just go for the joke. Neds self-absorption, Stacey's contempt for Ned, Amanda's contempt for humanity, Eric's sad-sack befuddlement, it all just works. They did an entire show about the down-on-his-luck Mr. Beveldere, for God's sake! Any real TV fan has to admire that. I can only imagine that the show was killed only because Thomas Hayden Church was just too far over the top for most people. I thought he was great but everyone I talk to absolutely *hated* him. But slap in Eric McCormack (who is undoubtedly a better actor, just too understated to really be funny), slap on a gay aspect to get some press and make it look like a different show, and problem solved.